Thats not so. If he is really as clever as some think (Im still undecided on that), I realize there are many ways around this. The state in which the bodies were left and the choice of dump sites were the same in both killings, and strange objects were found with the Evansdale girls similar to the weird objects found with the Delphi victims. Teenage girls are another matter, but thats not pedophilia. People are pretty adamant that theres no way anyone could have brought all the signature items to the location where the girls were killed without anyone seeing him. not sure if those are the photos you're referring to. Great sleuthing. And I say that as someone who loves cemeteries. He was wearing a hunting hat identical to BGs hunting cap. What are your thoughts? We focused on the area where you can see all the camera flashes going off in a circle. WebI have in my possession what are purported to be leaked photos of the Delphi crime scene where Abby Williams and Libby German were found. The Evansdale Murders are the double murders of two very young girls in Evansdale, Iowa, in 2012. In case yiou think its weird to go to such forums, half the people in the forum were hebephiles and another half were hebephile haters threatening to kill the hebephiles and have them arrested. My male sleuths are running around measuring each individual tree and getting the wrong answers and my female sleuths climb up on the hill and see the whole damn forest perfectly. Please review his post from today depicting the graves of dead infants and children from photographs he took while working in Logansport, Indiana. Teleiophile: Maximally attracted to mature females 16+. take off ur shirt and shoe throw it in a river and snap a picture, that's these photos. while the maybe ' crime scene photos" I feel calling them that is very misleading, Mayne even intentionally misleading. The bodies were in very bad shape, and the cause of death could not be ascertained. A former girlfriend got shot in the head by her husband. And he sent it to one of the girls phones after the murders. . Indiana State Police revealed Monday that Allen, 50, a Delphi resident, is charged with two counts of murder for the deaths of 14-year-old Libby and 13-year-old Abby Williams. He doesnt seem to be too wacky. I hope theres a tiny bit of comfort in knowing that Libby lives on in you in the work you do every day. There are persistent rumors of a murder tape that got put out on the Internet. The lost key situation is a complete mixup. Scotts only purpose is to be to pretend he was Leaker in order to draw suspicion away from the prime suspect, Mr. X, for unknown reasons. The presence of attractions is not what is important here. DAs wont dare touch a homicide case, much less a serial or multiple homicide case, unless they think they have enough evidence for a conviction. If you mention him on the other Delphi Murder site you get down voted. }); DELPHI, INDIANA: Liberty German, also known as Libby, was found dead on February 14, 2017, and her loved ones are remembering her. I reported his post to FB as I find it very objectionable. He said the murderers "torn a hole in our families that will never heal.". That can only mean that BG fired a gun at some point in this crime. }); Sorry, that was supposed to be . The FBI for some odd reason felt that the girls had been left alive for a week after they were abducted. The article focused on Mr. X but did not name him, instead referring to him losing his keys during the search. Embed. Bottom line is murderers get away with it all the time in this country, and in a number of cases, LE is pretty sure they know who did it, but they simply dont have enough evidence to take it to court. Be my guest. }) eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), they look legitimate but the shoe looks oddly clean and pristine for something in a creek? Nowadays an 18 year old boy has sex with a 17 year old girl, gets arrested, goes to jail, gets called a pedophile and a child molester, and sees his name go on a sex offender registry for life. Now hes in even more trouble. No one knows who it might be from. Around 2011-2102 was when he first moved to Delphi. He had his car keys. I worked as a proofreader of an academic journal, an assistant editor of a major magazine, and a freelance writer. Would mr x have parked his car in the graveyard earlier during the crime or was it there only after 630pm monday? Sex murderers of little girls almost always have a strong pedophilic age orientation, although occasionally they attack adults too, as in the killer of Madeline McMurray who murdered a 3 year old girl, probably killed an 8 year old girl in Germany, and raped and brutally beat a 70 year old woman. That means that the alibi cannot be flipped anymore. Try not to be sensationalist, it makes you seem unstable and ridiculous. Let law enforcement run that information and make that determination," he said during a news conference. And theyre all here to look at his victims and theyre so stupid they cant figure out he did it, so hes basically taunting them and being brazen by staying right there the whole time. Their bikes were strewn across the bike path. Especially a sheet hanging up? As a result of this mass hysteria around the subject, the perfectly legitimate category of statutory rape (I prefer the term illegal intercourse) has been absurdly conflated with the child molestation of little girls under 13, which admittedly is a problem. The 8 and 10 year old girls fall into the pedophile category, and the 13 and 14 year old victims do fall into the hebephile category. This would follow from the report of the search party member below where she says that Libby had a log jammed up perpendicular to her crotch to make it seem as it was penetrating her sexually. Later he needed months of psychotherapy due to the trauma he experienced by discovering the bodies. I have a photo of him and Sheriff Tobe Lozenby posing with a hunting rifle, clearly a gag photo. Ms. Y said she had suspected Mr. X from the very first day after the news about the lost keys and his truck being parked right above the crime scene came out. The Patty family said they still want to help investigators as much as they can since this investigation is still ongoing. He seems to have many friends in the Delphi area with the whole town on his friends page. They did take a gun from the Maxwells search, and they did ballistics tests on it, but it failed, so they gave it back. I reported the other day that BG videotaped his crime. Im a terrible artist. Ew. In the years since the murders police have released two different sketches of potential suspects. Lists have been made of all of the similarities between the Evansdale Murders and the Delphi Murders. As for what theyd say to Allen if they talk to him. Morbid memento mori themes revolving around dead children's graves is motive in art since eternity dear morally offended Karens of this sub. Also, I had not talked to her before I ran those photos and determined that the girls legs were spread (see photos above). Obviously he put that stuff there before the crime or afterwards, but people claim the crime scene was searched in the early evening of the 13th and neither the girls or the items were there, so that looks like the girls were taken away (to a shack?) You can see it in the video. I think it is only a crime on the federal level, and its never used the way these people think think it is. It is said that I made up this story. If you use a windshield cover, you can at least forget about scrapping the ice off your windshield to save some time and hassle. Bowlin offered to give DNA and take a lie detector test. Did he ever go home to his wife that night? The police ran a sketch of a potential suspect based on someone's description of who they believed they saw. He strikes me as someone that would be considered by peers to to straddle the line between quirky and annoying. As far as Gannon Staunch, his stepmom is doing everything she can to slow down the trial. Delphi murders: Liberty German's grieving sister posts throwback photo on 14-year-old's death anniversary. Theres just a lot of mixed emotions.". I have in my possession what are purported to be leaked photos of the Delphi crime scene where Abby Williams and Mr. and Mrs. X are close to the Pattys. Curiously, Mr. Xs phone pinged the Child Protective Services building for several hours around the time of the murders. Poor thing lived for maybe five seconds and then died. There was also a large white sheet left at the scene with a smiley face scrawled on it. I presume he did this after they were dead, so at least they didnt have to suffer this indignity. We think he never lost his keys, but were not sure about that. I agree with Kelly and Carroll. What man with a clear rap sheet and no sex crimes in his background wakes up at age 51 and decides to commit a pair of sexual homicides? Well, ok, nowhere in that piece is that football player connected to Mr. X. I think that is just a photo of some random football player myself. Yes, he was parked at the CPS building (its Crop Protection Service) before the killings and then cemetery after the killings to stage the scene, correct! Pedohebephilia: Apparently there is a significant group of men who react maximally to girls under 16 all the way down to little girls, encompassing both pedophilic and hebephilic attractions. The former bar owner said Spreading their legs in that sexually receptive pose was bad enough, but BG did worse than that. Backing up Leaker, Part 3. Should be turned into LE as I have heard rumored pall malls was found at CS. He writes in his post that the largest of the photos was staged in his studio. If so, there is an error in labels of the crime scenes photos. Thats illegal in most places, either child molestation in the case of 12 year olds or statutory rape for 13-15 year olds. Likewise with the report of the white truck at the CPS building. When buying cowboy boots, there are a few aspects to consider, such as how far up they go on your legs and their design. They have his DNA. ga('ads.send', { Ive only ever had to have my car toed once or twice in my life and it was because of malfunction. The woman told me that a large toy-like object was left at the scene. Theyre crawling all over the page. Problem? Its possible he found his keys somewhere in the woods, probably near the crime scene, during those 18 hours. Its also why Carter said, The killer may be in this room right now. However, he then looked away from Mr. X far to the right. Heres the latest. We know that for a fact. When they were trying to sneak Hebephilia into the DSM-5, regular reference was made to this group. The document I have does not list Mr. X as a suspect in this crime. One image showed a glimpse of a river that was slightly lightened by the sun, while another showed a trail bridge that looked old and brittle with the surrounding trees entirely shed. They cant use that in court, but these partial matches are useful to LE because they give LE additional confidence that they have the right suspect. Well, guess what? There are references below to an elaborate crime scene with posing of the girls and all sorts of crazy and unlikely objects scattered about. Ive also spoken with the Iowa lead detective on the Evansdale case. If we can get somebody to come forward with more information if we can get a name or at least a location of this subject that would be great., Dances with Wolves actor pleads not guilty in 'sex cult' case, Star singer La Tigresa dies from a heart attack at 89 after storied career, TikTok star, 28, is charged with child abuse after 'attack on boyfriend', Rape survivor slams Gabby Petito Utah cop over handling of her case, 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, New photos of Richard Allen, 50, have surfaced after he was reportedly taken into custody in connection to the Delphi murders, A photo of Allen's daughter appeared to be taken at the same location where Libby German and Abby Williams (pictured) were last seen alive, Allen was pictured in front of what appears to be a police sketch of the suspect, searched the Wabash River in Peru, Indiana, last month. What she told me, if validated, is one of the most bizarre and insane double murders of the 21st century. I wonder if anyone is re-visiting this post given the very recent voice analysis including the words "Karl?" My male sleuths are too logical. Ms. Y said Mrs. X had made a series of very strange posts to Facebook about how she thought she had known someone all her life but it turned out she didnt know them and that this person turned out be some sort of an evil force. Thats a career-ender and I take my journalistic ethics very seriously. He may have shown evidence in his life of an abnormal interest in little girls or young teenage girls. I believe it is Crop Protection Services, as in for farmers. Around the time of the crime, Mr. X was about the same height and weight as BG. You think maybe during that entire time he was arranging or putting the final touches on the scene as it were? A dead woman is positioned in a bathtub, and a broom handle of an intact broom is shoved into her vagina. About 0%. Does it say that anymore in the caption? Kind of like, you know, life itself? Pretty mean. Instead these guys are master craftsmen straight out of a Sherlock Holmes or John Buchan novel. Did he have family dysfunction? The killer appears to have thrown bleach over both girls and over all of the objects at the scene. That story has gotten completely garbled with Becky Patty, Mr. Xs daughter, and Mrs. X, Mr. Xs wife, all saying that Mr. X never lost his keys. Knock yourselves out. There is a photo on Reddit of a Photoshopped up photo of BG. If I were a mother who lost a child I would not find this comforting, I would find this offensive. But it would be easy enough to connect the keys to Mr. Xs truck if that were the case. He was married for up to a decade to a wife before she was able to tear down his mask of sanity. See Harvey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity, 1947, the ultimate document ever written on psychopathy. Theres no DNA under Libbys nails. I was reading forum back and forths on the whole Mr. X truck towing debacle. Ron thought it was an odd request but he granted it because Mr. X was a neighbor who lived only 2 miles away. ga('ads.send', { Also, Leaker said that the girls were not sexually assaulted with the killers body, implying that they may have been with inanimate objects. Lindsey Jacobson/ABC News, FILE "I've always been concerned about how Furthermore, why on Earth did he specifically ask to search Ron Logans property, which is exactly where the girls were killed? What is the likelihood that she made up a lie about the girls legs being spread at the same time as I found some crime scene photos that I interpreted as the girls legs being spread? You want to hold that against me? Youre getting it. I see no evidence that this is true. Furthermore, a white van had been seen cruising the streets of Evansdale for a few weeks before the murders. I watched a couple of his videos. Blaming the mothers for the deaths is a strange way to frame what he referenced, and that's not quite what he did. Many, many pistols are chambered in that caliber, both expensive, and cheap ones. The poor 15 year old girl did not, and her body was found dumped nearby shortly afterwards. They see the forest not the trees. It just says this photo is not important and pay no attention to it, right? She said that Libbys head was leaning against a log. I do not know how to use any graphics program. Rumor is she saw a lot of these documents and ran them off. However, as they have strong attractions to mature females also, we tend not to worry about these men. I think hes just a quirky artist. If Mr. X killed the Evansdale girls, we have to think again about his sexual age orientation. DELPHI, Ind. Many adults feel that men who have sex with teenage girls are bad, evil, depraved, immoral, etc. A question has been brought up about how would BG transport these various objects to the crime scene, as they could easily been seen on his person in the photo on the bridge. One is named the Lewiston Killer. We also have a paid sleuthing group if you are interested in joining. I think he was trying to be artistic and he really missed the mark. They clear him each time after a while, and then they simply say that he is not a suspect. Second, as I repeated above, I am bound by journalistic ethics not to make up lies out of whole cloth. He had to do this because he had to keep pretending that he had lost his keys, and obviously his wife had never shown up to bring a new one. I hate to bring up this subject since it sets off so many lies about me, but Im forced to because Mr. X may have an aberrant age sexual orientation and this has forensic consequences. Sigh. Thats clearly the CSI people photographing the scene. . The grandmother of Libby German said the man arrested and accused of killing her granddaughter also was the man who printed off pictures for Libbys funeral. Oh why is there a gag order on the details of the truck at CPS? Its pretty clear that at least one cartridge was probably found at the scene because in the document(s), it says that LE is looking for a gun in connection with this crime in order to do ballistics tests on it. No such crime as Interfering with an Investigation. The roommate also said that he felt that Mr. X might have committed the Evansdale murders too. I dont know what that means. Ive speculated that too. I wonder if on a rare collectors type .40 or 10 mm if a silencer can be used? It is hard enough to lose a child let alone place blame on the mothers. First of all, Mr. X asked Ron Logan permission to search his land at 6:30 PM on February 13, three hours after the girls were murdered. It is also said that Libbys phone, previously dead, started pinging again right around this time. When discussing this man in the comments, always refer to him as Mr. X. I wonder what his supporters think of this. For instance, Bundy killed an 8 year old girl when he was 14. Nobody really knows this. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. Do you think his behavior has anything to do with Libby and Abby? You found it to be so sick and objectional that you reported it to facebook and yet you share the link here on reddit. Oh it was a family member who said she fought? He couldnt keep them alive and tortured them, though he may have wanted to. However, she had not yet seen these crime scene photos. Cops and murder and bodies oh my! In order to do ballistics tests, you need a spent cartridge fired from the gun in question. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Delphi Killer could have been either a hebephile or a teleiophile based on the age of his victims. Thats not conclusive, but its looking better all the time. He had somehow removed them from their bikes and gotten them into his van. Alternately, BG killed the girls and then went back to the scene between the sometime in the night of February 13 and early morning of February 14 and created this crazy Disneyland crime scene. So this source is really current LE. Does he kill them as quickly as possible to get them out of the way (my theory), and then he strips Libby completely and Abby bottomless. I have a photograph of him with his daughters from 2009 when they were girls. Allen's daughter can be seen smiling on what looks like the same bridge that Libby documented on Snapchat the day she and Abby disappeared. A second person who was understanding Kelsi's pain wrote, "I can't imagine the heartache that comes with this walk". One question rang out to me as I was reading. I dont buy this timeline. Id think the risk of drawing attention to himself during the night of the search would be too risky but then again so is killing the girls in broad daylight. They always get caught up in these doubting logic traps that send them down dead ends or cause them to question the obvious. I know, with only a handful the chances, they hit the one closest to the murder site isnt too improbable (not letting Mr X. off the hook that easily though, especially at 6 pm before the search even started) but still youd think they would of started the first night at least canvasing the area the girls were last seen. Says she wants to represent herself in court. This second group rationalizes that X couldnt move his truck on the night of February 13th because by then he was barricaded by the police. These men are automatically dangerous because the only way to fulfill their sexual drive is to commit a crime. Why didnt he drive it home after he finished searching Rons land Monday evening? In fact, it makes him even more suspicious. According to the theoretical physicist, he seemed to be saying that this smiley face sheet had been hung from trees. 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